7 Reasons Smart People FAIL with Active Trading & Investing EP 195 - Tradersfly (2024)

Hey, this is Sasha and welcome to another episode of “Let’s Talk Stocks.”

In this week’s episode, we’re going to take a look at the Seven Reasons Smart People Fail at Trading.

If you’re not doing well with your trades, if you’re struggling at trading, and you still haven’t traded very well throughout your career in trading and you believe you’re also smart, intelligent — you’ve gone through college, and you have an excellent degree, maybe you have a great job, so you believe you’re smart and intelligent in that space but you’re still struggling at trading, here are a few reasons may be that you might want to take a look at inside yourself so that way you can see how you can improve.

Thoughts ideas and concepts that will help you

Reason #1- You Got to Start at the Bottom

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When a smart person comes out, and they go into trading, many of them don’t want to start at the bottom because they feel they already have that knowledge. They believe that they already have that gap filled, so they want to start in the middle or a little bit higher up. Why would you want to start at the bottom starting at the beginning? It just stinks because well you got to start from scratch.

In the martial arts, we’ve had a rule, or you could say a Creed that we went through. Everybody works. Nothing is free. Everybody starts at the bottom. It doesn’t matter if you were a black belt in another studio; you still start at the bottom of the new studio.

What you’re trying to do is — you’re looking at trading, and if you’re trying to approach it with hey I’ll be able to go ahead and trade fifty thousand dollars right away, that may not be the case because you got to start at the bottom. Start at the bottom with the amount of capital you’re trading. Start at the bottom with the number of contracts or shares you’re trading. Start at the bottom from learning technical analysis, money management, your emotions, your psychology. It all starts at the bottom. You need to have that beginner mindset to be able to evolve and move forward.

A lot of intelligent people don’t want to do that. What they want to do is they want to start somewhere in the middle, or hey I already know this stuff I already learned about economics in school. Why do I have to start there? Why do I have to trade a thousand dollars when I have three hundred thousand dollars in my bank account? Why do I need to do that? Why can’t I just put it right to start actively trading?

That’s one of the reasons why they fail — because they have that overconfidence in their trades and their abilities and they don’t want to start at the bottom.

Reason #2 – They Stop Learning

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Again, if you believe you’re smart. You think you’re intelligent. You probably also think you don’t need to continue learning, you already have a lot of knowledge, you have a lot of education, you don’t want to continue to learn and educate yourself.

If you take a look at some of the more wealthy people — like for example Bill Gates — they read one hour every single day at least to continue to grow and evolve and to see a different perspective.

That’s about five hours every single week that they’re doing, just spending on at least reading and bettering themselves.

You could do this in other areas of life. But if you stop learning, if you stop educating yourself, all of a sudden, you’re going to have a little bit of trouble when it comes to trading and a lot of smart people that get into trading, they do this as well.

As they don’t want to continue to learn and evolve, you might learn how to trade let’s say on the technicals and now all of a sudden hey well I don’t want to continue and learn more about options hey. Or I don’t want to stay and learn more about Iron Condors or Calendars or whatever the case may be. You find your spot, and you’re trying to stick in that spot, and you don’t want to continue, to move forward when in fact just going a little bit, a little bit ahead will help improve your trading.

I’m not saying you need to read every single book out there or watch every only video course out there. But to continue to improve and grow a little bit at a time will help you stay involved and a lot of smart people. They don’t want to do this, especially the ones that fail within their trades.

So, keep an eye out for that.

Reason #3 – Learning Trap and Playing it Safe

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The other approach to this is sometimes smart people they get into the learning trap where all they want to do is learn, learn, learn, learn, learn. They don’t put on trades because they’re good at learning. They’re good at educating themselves. They got smart, somehow, for a reason because they are learning. This is where you get that learning trap.

When you have that learning trap, you’re playing it safe because you don’t want to put on trades. You want to learn everything possible. You want to learn everything that you need to know before you put on trades. So, you don’t lose money.

This can also be a little bit of a problem because now you’re spending everything on just learning, learning, learning without building that experience, and putting on real trades. You’re trading a little bit conservatively before you even get into trades. You’re not also putting on any trades; you’re playing it safe.

That’s another trap that many smart people get into.

Reason #4 – you try to outsmart the experience

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What do I mean by this?

Well, if you’re a smart, intelligent person, what happens if you want to do something better than what somebody showed you. You want to do something more comfortable. You want something a lot more simple for you because you already have a lot of this knowledge and experience from your past. You’ve been successful in the past, so you try to go above it to outsmart the experience part.

Meaning, you don’t have any experience trading yet, but you get into this trading business. You’re trying to be smart at it. You’re trying to be intelligent, witty. You’re trying to finesse your way through and make trades successful trades and profitable trades, but unfortunately the problem is — is you still need to gain experience in trading. Instead, what you try to do is use your intelligence muscle or your brain, your mindsets to proceed and move forward when, in fact, what you need to do is build that experience.

What happens is, with smart people, you’re trying to outsmart gaining that experience.

Ultimately, what you need to do is put on trades and get that experience rather than just trying to be smart about it and move your way through it by thinking you know it all.

Reason #5 – Ego Driven

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I find that with a lot of smart people that I run into that have a hard head, they are ego driven. This creates failures within their trade, within their trading.

When you look at this ego driven mindset, it’s what they’re always thinking — they know better. They don’t admit to their faults, which is another primary reason. They don’t agree to their mistakes of what’s the problem. They always want to push it, and they want to do it even better. They got to do it better.

Let’s say you have $500,000 in your bank account. What’s the point of trading if you can’t make fifty thousand dollars every single week. You see those things where it’s often your puffs to say hey well I got to make it work, and I got to make more money.

That’s how they go about with their ego, and that creates failures because you’re putting on large trades. You don’t have that beginner mindset, putting on these big trades that you’re not ready for, that you don’t have the experience for. That ego driven mindset can create a lot of problems and big-time losses. So be very careful with that if you’re in that bracket.

Reason #6 – Not Admitting Mistakes

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If you have that ego-driven mentality, you’re probably not admitting mistakes.

Many people in general, it’s not just smart people but many people in general in the regular world, they don’t want to admit to their mistakes. They want to push it somewhere else. Hey, well, it wasn’t my fault into the car accident. It wasn’t my issue. They ran into me.

It wasn’t my fault that I lost a lot of money. The market just moved down, when in reality is you decided to take that investment or that trade. You could have put it into other things like real estate coins or put the money under the mattress.

It is up to you. Yes, you cannot control the market but still hey if you messed up something, let’s say you hit the trigger button and it went into the wrong stock or the wrong order type, well that’s your mistake.

Yes, maybe the icons were a little too small. Yes, maybe your mouse wasn’t working but the person who is trading at higher levels, what they’ll say is yes there was a relevant technical issue but it’s my fault, it’s my issue. Whereas somebody who’s got this problem reason number six not admitting their mistakes. They’ll say — well, it was the mouse, it wasn’t my fault.

It’s a different mindset as you can see that you’re trying to put the blame somewhere else and not take responsibilities.

So be very careful here because this is a common issue for just about anything. You do whether it’s business, whether its life in general, not admitting mistakes can create a lot of trouble. I find that this is one of the main things that separates a successful trader from my failing trader. If you can recognize I made a mistake well what can you do to correct it or hey if you acknowledge that this is where the problem is and what are you going to do to fix it, that can help you go a long way and take you to another level.

I’d say this is huge for most traders.

Reason #7 – Linear Thinking

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I find that linear thinking is a problem more for people in technical areas.

Think of this as the engineer thinking. I don’t mean to harp on engineers. I don’t mean to put them in a segment or a category, but what I’m saying is that when you think linearly, you’re feeling so robotic and systematically. That the trades don’t have any flexibility or fluidity.

Think of this as a beginner baby tree. When you have a baby tree, and you’re starting to grow, well that growth can go in a lot of different ways. You can even put a little stick to shift the growth. Or look at bonsais, you can tweak and manipulate them a little bit to train them to grow in a specific smaller zone or area.

The same thing with trees and bushes. You can guide them in which way you want to grow and train them.

When you have this linear thinking, what typically happens is you’re going with a systematic approach and with an old tree which is where the linear thinking happens. It’s tough to start bending that tree one way or the other.

So with a person who thinks linearly — which happens with some brilliant people –, they want to do it this way. It’s very mathematical. It’s very systematic. And the process has no wiggle room. They’re always looking for the reason of well why did my stock go down.

Sometimes you don’t have to have a reason — people just panics. People were emotional. It’s not linear mathematical or systematic thing why a particular stock sold off at times. Sometimes it’s just because of people panicked. Sometimes it’s because that’s what they wanted to do or they felt unsafe whatever the case may be. It’s now become more emotional and not linear.

If you’re continually looking for the causes of how to do something systematically, how do I put on a trade, how many shares do I need. If you’re creating things in an excel file where it tells me the exact number of shares that I need to put on and my percentage of risk, that’s all fine and dandy. It’s good to create a system and approach to trading. But remember, trading is two parts — part of it is science, and part of it is art.

You have that combination that you need to work through. You need to understand the science or the linear part of it, and then you also need to see the art form behind it where you can get more creative with the risks that you put on or the risk levels that you go in within your portfolio.

Conclusion

So be very careful with that, especially if you’re in a technical degree like engineering computer science programming, those kinds of things. I find those people struggle a little bit more because they want to approach that trading as far as A plus B equals C, and then I want to repeat that process millions of times.

Instead, look at learning the baseline and then adjusting it to environmental conditions. Just like when you’re driving on the road and conditions will change. You might need to make adjustments. Sometimes, you need to go a little slower. Sometimes, you can go a little quicker. Sometimes, you need to avoid things on the road, so you need to be a bit more flexible as you continue to drive your portfolio forward.

7 Reasons Smart People FAIL with Active Trading & Investing EP 195 - Tradersfly (2024)

FAQs

Why do most people fail in trading? ›

The emotional aspect of trading often leads to irrational decisions like panic selling. When the market moves unfavourably, many traders, especially those who are inexperienced, tend to panic and exit their positions hastily. This panic selling often occurs at the worst possible time, leading to significant losses.

Why do 90% of people fail at trading? ›

It can stem from a variety of sources: fear of losing money, fear of missing out (FOMO), and fear of being wrong. This emotion can cause traders to exit positions prematurely, avoid taking necessary risks, or even refrain from trading altogether.

Why do most swing traders fail? ›

One of the most common mistakes that swing traders make is not having a well-defined trading plan. A good trading plan should include your entry, risk management and target booking. Without a clear plan, it can be easy to make impulsive decisions or to deviate from your strategy.

Why 99% of traders lose money? ›

The ones that try to squeeze the market for disproportionate returns only end up loosing money and in turn creating those very inefficiencies. This is one of the most important reasons why most people fail to make money in the markets. Unrealistic expectations. First of all, you're misquoting Zerodha (Nithin).

Why do 95% of traders lose? ›

Insufficient Education and Knowledge: Many traders plunge into the market without a solid grasp of its nuances. This lack of understanding leads to impulsive decision-making and substantial financial losses. Comprehensive education is the bedrock upon which successful trading stands.

Why am I losing so much in trading? ›

On the one hand, beginners who don't pay much attention to studying and want to open their first trade as quickly as possible are at risk. On the other hand, people who started trading and made some progress may feel overconfident and neglect risk management. They may decide at some point to risk too much in a trade.

Which trading is most profitable? ›

Profitable trading strategies differ among individuals due to distinct variables such as risk tolerance and the amount of capital one has at their disposal. Several highly effective strategies that a multitude of traders find profitable include techniques like Scalping, Candlestick trading, and Profit Parabolic.

What percentage of traders are successful? ›

However, these advantages do not guarantee success. Only about 4% of traders at a proprietary firm, including professional trader, can make a living from day trading, and 10% to 15% may earn some profit, but not enough for a full-time career.

Why do so many day traders lose money? ›

Lack of Risk Management

Unfortunately, many traders fail to implement a solid risk management plan and take on more risk than they can handle. This can lead to significant losses that wipe out their trading capital and leave little to show for their efforts.

What is the number one mistake traders make? ›

Trading without a Plan

Successful, experienced traders have a well-defined strategy, and they know when they should enter and exit trades. They also have plans about how much they're willing to risk. Trading without a plan is one of the biggest mistakes made by new traders.

Why do 90% option traders lose money? ›

Many Options or entirely stocks do not have liquidity. This not only makes the entry difficult due to the difficulty of getting a good bargain but also makes an exit difficult. At times in many stock options, there are no quotes after a big move. This makes it impossible to book profits.

Do all traders lose money in the beginning? ›

Synopsis. One of the primary reasons traders lose money is the absence of a clear trading strategy. According to research by Bloomberg, over 80% of day traders quit within the first two years, often due to insufficient strategies.

Why do most people fail in stock market? ›

Poor Risk Management

Traders who fail to set and adhere to stop-loss orders or those who over-leverage their positions can suffer significant losses when the market moves against them. Using stop-loss orders can assist investors in controlling emotions and preventing hasty decisions driven by fear or greed.

Why are most traders unprofitable? ›

Unprofitable traders fail for several reasons, including psychological biases, lack of discipline, inadequate risk management, and flawed simulated trading strategies.

Why do most people not trade? ›

People are afraid of trading stocks because they think it is too complicated or they do not know how to invest or understand what the risks are, or which stocks to buy or sell.

Why do most people lose money day trading? ›

Another reason why day traders tend to lose money is that it's very different from long-term investing. While traders take advantage of price swings (which means they have to make specific predictions), investors tend to buy a diversified basket of assets for the long haul.

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